Marginalia

[coalescent]

Genius: "FACT! As of today, November 10, 2004, it is one year since 'Hey Ya' was released in the UK. So all you Beyonces and Lucy Lius and Babydolls GET OFF THE FLOOR.' And keep reading down to the 'note to DJs' at the end ...

Via tamaranth (several days ago), the Guardian interviews Neal Stephenson.

At Locus, Howard Waldrop and Lawrence Person like The Incredibles a whole damn lot.

Philip Pullman clearly never saw 'Isaac and Ishmael', or maybe just disagrees: "The Christian right in America is the mirror image of the Islamic fundamentalists," he says.

An adaptation of The Master and Margarita causes controversy: 'Russia's Orthodox church has reacted with dismay to a film of the seminal novel The Master and Margarita, saying it offers a version of the Gospel that is "nothing but negative" and fearing it will offend or confuse many believers.' Shocking.

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[hawleygriffen.livejournal.com]

NOTE TO DJs:
THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO START PLAYING 'CRAZY IN LOVE' AGAIN.

Hee!

Philip Pullman clearly never saw 'Isaac and Ishmael', or maybe just disagrees: "The Christian right in America is the mirror image of the Islamic fundamentalists," he says.

Oooh, new Lyra book. :-D And, I'm a bit more sceptical than he of what one film covering the whole trilogy is gonna be like.

Never did get around to reading Master and Margarita...

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

Oooh, new Lyra book. :-D

But not for two years. :-/

And, I'm a bit more sceptical than he of what one film covering the whole trilogy is gonna be like.

I don't think it does--there will be three films, the first of which is currently in production. Although I admit the article is not clear.

[hawleygriffen.livejournal.com]

But not for two years. :-/

Ah! I don't read these things close enough. Feh.

I don't think it does--there will be three films, the first of which is currently in production. Although I admit the article is not clear.

Really? That's much better. I'd heard somewhere else a long time ago say one film and hadn't heard anything since. Glad to have been proven wrong.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

Well, this article talks about a new film franchise, and I don't think one film generally counts as a franchise. But I'm sure I've read, or seen, Pullman saying that it would be a trilogy of films.

Interesting that it's being called Northern Lights and not The Golden Compass.

[danmilburn.livejournal.com]

IMDB has it as The Golden Compass, not that that means much..

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

IMDB vs. Reuters ... Hmm ... ;-)

[john-d-owen.livejournal.com]

Interesting that it's being called Northern Lights and not The Golden Compass.

As far as I'm aware, Northern Lights was the original title for the first book: it may have got changed for overseas publication.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing the reaction of the Religious Right in Amerika to the third film in the series (or for that matter, to the unflattering depiction of Christianity throughout the trilogy), especially if Pullman's original is followed, and the death of God is featured. Heh, heh, let's see how that will play in the Red States.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

As far as I'm aware, Northern Lights was the original title for the first book: it may have got changed for overseas publication.

I think you're right on both counts. I'm just a little surprised that they're not keeping with the altered version for the film, at least on the grounds that it's more consistent with the other two ('the [adjective] [artifact]').

[kalorlo.livejournal.com]

Yup, Northern Lights was definitely the original title. And I'm happy they're keeping it since I like it better :)

[greengolux.livejournal.com]

On the panel on religion at Novacon John Courtenay Grimwood named The Master and the Margarita as one of the books that affected him deeply.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

In an emotional sense? Or as a writer? Or both?

[greengolux.livejournal.com]

They were talking about books that resulted in 'epiphanies' (not necessarily religious/spiritual epiphanies) and he mentioned it as a book that had a big impact on him as a person and changed the way he thought. So more the emotional sense. But I suspect that if it affected him in the emotional sense, something of that will carry over into his professional life as a writer.

[ex-susumu64.livejournal.com]

But I never stopped playing Crazy in Love!

okay, I am not a DJ, but still...

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

But I never stopped playing Crazy in Love!

Then you should. Right now. :-p

[ex-susumu64.livejournal.com]

But I like it! It's like riding the best rollercoaster in the world, while having buckets of water thrown in your face, in space, on fire, in 3D.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

... like some kind of horrible hallucinatory experience, then? :-p

[ex-susumu64.livejournal.com]

You mean the best kind, right? Music should be fun! Stop listening to Radiohead and get with the happy sound of omnipresent party pop.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

Music should be fun!

I agree entirely. Well, I agree partly. OK, I think it really depends on your definition of 'fun'. But more importantly, I disagree that the experience you described would be fun. Under almost any definition. :-p

[ex-susumu64.livejournal.com]

I concede I may have gotten a little carried away, there.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

I think it was the bit about being ON FIRE that lost me, really. :)

[ninebelow.livejournal.com]

Everyone knows being on fire is fun: ask a Buddhist monk. Then again I'm still listening to Bootylicious so what do I know.

[tizzle-b.livejournal.com]

EXACTLY!

Niall; sound advice here!

[snowking.livejournal.com]

YES.

But somehow more fun than all of that.

[despotliz.livejournal.com]

The two lines of "Hey Ya" that I can remember are now totally stuck in my head. Ta.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

Which two lines are those?

[despotliz.livejournal.com]

"Hey ya.............., hey ya................."

ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUNDAIEEE

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

I'm fairly certain that appears at no point in the song. Are you by any chance thinking of 'ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHTAIEEE'?

[despotliz.livejournal.com]

special. hell.

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

I'm not sorry, though. :-p

You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[tizzle-b.livejournal.com]

... so let me put the rest of the song to you;

[Intro]
One two three uh!

[Verse One - Andre 3000]
My baby don't mess around
Because she loves me so
And this I know for shooo..
Uh, But does she really wanna
But can't stand to see me
Walk out the dooor..
Don't try to fight the feelin'
Because the thought alone is killing me right nooww..
Uh, thank god for mom and dad
For sticking two together
'Cause we don't know hooowww...
UH!

[Chorus:]
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa..
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa..
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa..
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa..
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa..
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa..
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa..
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa..

[Verse Two - Andre 3000]
You think you've got it
Ohh, you think you've got it
But got it just don't get it
Till' there's nothing at
AaaaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAaaaaaallllll..
We get together
Ohh, we get together
But seperate's always better when there's feelings
InvooooooOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOlved
If what they say is "Nothing is forever"
Then what makes, Then what makes, Then what makes
Then what makes, Then what makes LOOVVEEE?
(Love exception) So why you, why you
Why you, why you, why you are we so in denial
When we know we're not happy heeeerrreeee...
Y'all don't want me here you just wanna dance

[Chorus]
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (Don't want to meet your daddy, OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (Just want you in my Caddy OHH OH)
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH, don't want to meet yo' mama OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (Just wan't to make you cumma OHH OH)
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (I'm, OHH OH I'm, OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (I'm just being honest OHH OH, I'm just being honest)

[Bridge - Andre 3000]
Hey, alright now
Alright now fellas, (YEAH!)
Now what's cooler than bein' cool?
(ICE COLD!) I can't hear ya'
I say what's cooler than bein' cool?
(ICE COLD!) whooo...
Alright, alright, alright, alright
Alright, alright, alright, alright
Alright, alright, alright, alright
Alright, alright, Ok now ladies, (YEAH!)
And we gon' break this thing down in just a few seconds
Now don't have me break this thang down for nothin'
Now I wanna see y'all on y'all baddest behavior
Lend me some suga', I am your neighbor ahh here we go!
Shake it, shake, shake it, shake it (OHH OH)
Shake it, shake it, shake, shake it, shake it, shake it (OHH OH)
Shake it, shake it like a Polaroid Picture, shake it, shake it
Shh you got to, shake it, shh shake it, shake it, got to shake it
(Shake it Suga') shake it like a Poloroid Picture

[Verse Three - Andre 3000 (Repeating "Shake it" in background)]
Now while Beyonce's and Lucy Lui's
And baby dolls, get on the floor
(Get on the floor)
You know what to dooo..
You know what to dooo..
You know what to do!

[Chorus]
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (Uh oh, Hey Ya)
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (Uh, uh, OHH OH)
Heeeyyy... Yaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)
Heeyy Yaaaaaaaa.. (OHH OH)

[Chorus continues until fade]

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

So basically, there's no round and round at all.

Andre 3000

This sounds suspiciously like a robot name to me. Do we have any proof that he's human?

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[tizzle-b.livejournal.com]

This sounds suspiciously like a robot name to me. Do we have any proof that he's human?

.... *sigh*

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

I miss Andrew. He'd get it. He wouldn't say anything [1], but he'd get it.

[1] He would, in fact, shout something in all caps. I hope.

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[greengolux.livejournal.com]

Andre 3000

This sounds suspiciously like a robot name to me. Do we have any proof that he's human?

ROBOTS ARE THE FUTURE OF HIP-HOP BABY!

</pathetic attempt to channel Andrew>

[coalescent.livejournal.com]

Hooray!

Now do Ian Watson. :-p

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[snowking.livejournal.com]

YAY!

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[ex-susumu64.livejournal.com]

Do we have any proof that he's human?

Robots generally don't have Andre 3000's eye for fashion.

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[ninebelow.livejournal.com]

Sez who?

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[ex-susumu64.livejournal.com]

Notice how I said "generally".

Re: You sound like you're stuck with no-where to go...

[greengolux.livejournal.com]

So basically, there's no round and round at all.

Surely she meant that the lyrics are going round and round in her head. Not that "round and round" are the lyrics.