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Sep. 6th, 2004 11:36 am
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I just walk-and-talk-briefed someone else in the company. I feel so very West Wing.

Hugo results and discussion can be found here, courtesy [livejournal.com profile] flyingsauce. It seems to me a fairly pedestrian group of winners, for the most part--in particular, nobody will ever convince me that 'Legions in Time' is even in the same league as 'The Empire of Ice Cream.' But I suppose, with one or two exceptions, the shortlists weren't that hot to start with.

And here's something to think about come Hugo nominations time for next year: Light is eligible.

Fandoms grow fast these days. Not only has the Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell fanfic started, before the book is even published, but it's started out by crossing over with Pirates of the Caribbean.

Shock winner of the top screen scientist poll: Beaker and
Bunsen
beat Emmett Brown, Spock, Doctor Who and others.

Here's an article about how libraries and librarians can help out genre readers. It's interesting to see it all laid out in such neutral terms: the difference between a reader and a fan, the definition of 'sf', etc.

Civil unrest in Star Wars Galaxies. I remember a story about the mafia developing in the online Sims a while back. All very interesting ...

Oh, and after all the debate, my long review of The Snow is up at The Alien Online.

Most recently read: Whilst the fact that westbound trains out of Paddington kept getting cancelled last night meant that I got home at a ridiculously late hour, it also meant that I finished off the last of the Best Short Novels. Terry Bisson's 'Greetings' deals with the possible implications of an aging population. Demographic change is a subject I'm interested in; I think there are probably great stories to be written about it. 'Greetings' isn't great--it doesn't do anything particularly special with its central idea, voluntary suicide--but it is very good. It's moving at the right times, without being mawkish, and though it has a somewhat bleak outlook, it also has a thoughtful treatment of the ethical issues involved.

And finally ... Matthew Cheney has an interview with Paolo Bacigalupi, author of 'The Fluted Girl', 'The People of Sand and Slag' and (in the latest issue of Asimov's, that I forgot to reclaim from [livejournal.com profile] snowking on Saturday), 'The Pasho'.

Date: 2004-09-06 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowking.livejournal.com
Shock winner of the top screen scientist poll

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Date: 2004-09-06 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Which word? 'Shock', 'winner', 'of', 'the', 'top', 'screen', 'scientist', or 'poll'? :-p

Date: 2004-09-06 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
You're not surprised that the muppets beat Doctor Who and Mr Spock? Or I described something else as a shock recently?

Date: 2004-09-06 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowking.livejournal.com
I'm totally unsurprised.

Date: 2004-09-06 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
What, not even a little bit?

What am I missing here?

Date: 2004-09-06 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immortalradical.livejournal.com
Well, the element of surprise, one would think.

Date: 2004-09-06 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalorlo.livejournal.com
The rockingness of the Muppets, obviously. THEY SHALL RULE ALL!

Date: 2004-09-06 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm not disputing the muppet greatness. I just thought Who fandom would be more vocal ...

Date: 2004-09-06 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowking.livejournal.com
While I've no dount the individual Who fan is louder, the average person is more likely to be in favour of Muppets.

Plus Dr Honeydew is a way better scientist.

Date: 2004-09-06 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
While I've no dount the individual Who fan is louder, the average person is more likely to be in favour of Muppets.

Sure, because the ballot-boxes of online polls are never stuffed by fannish groups. :-p

Plus Dr Honeydew is a way better scientist.

FSVO 'better', anyway ...

Date: 2004-09-06 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowking.livejournal.com
Sure, because the ballot-boxes of online polls are never stuffed by fannish groups. :-p

Yes, but they clearly failed here. Hooray!

FSVO 'better', anyway ...

Number of times Spock managed to turn gold into cottage cheese? ZERO. And Beaker has a better singing voice than the Doctor.

Date: 2004-09-06 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Yes, but they clearly failed here. Hooray!

Indeed. But hence (to drag this back to where it started) my surprise. You see? :-p

Number of times Spock managed to turn gold into cottage cheese? ZERO. And Beaker has a better singing voice than the Doctor.

Hmm. You make a good case.

Date: 2004-09-06 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowking.livejournal.com
Your faith in humanity?

Date: 2004-09-06 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immortalradical.livejournal.com
Light is eligible.

For certain definitions of 'eligible', sure.

*whistles innocently*

Date: 2004-09-06 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
You could not be more pred. You could try, but you would fail. :-p

Date: 2004-09-06 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] despotliz.livejournal.com
Y'know, you can't vote in the Hugos unless you sign up for Worldcon...

Date: 2004-09-06 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Ssh! Small steps, Liz. First I trick him into going to a first thursday, then I start mentioning Worldcon ...

Date: 2004-09-06 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] despotliz.livejournal.com
First Thursdays? Don't be silly, Dan doesn't travel for meets. :)

Date: 2004-09-06 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
I said shh! Sheesh, you'll give the whole game away at this rate. ;-)

Date: 2004-09-06 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immortalradical.livejournal.com
'Covert' isn't really something you do, is it?

Date: 2004-09-06 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Well, not when people keep blowing my cover, no!

Dammit. :-p

Date: 2004-09-06 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
I'm not planning to ever live in Japan, but I definitely want to go there, and that seems like as good an excuse as any ... I'd probably go for a proper-length holiday, though, so I could do other stuff as well as the con. :)

Date: 2004-09-06 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talvalin.livejournal.com
Good plan. Japan is brilliant, and it's worth taking 2-3 weeks holiday armed a JR Rail Pass to take advantage of the shinkansen (bullet trains). Just don't leave yours at home like I did. Ahem.

Date: 2004-09-06 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brassyn.livejournal.com
one day you'll make a post that says 'what's better: white chocolate buttons or milk chocolate?' and then i won't feel so out of my depth responding.
regardless, reading the comments always make me get sort of sappy in a i'mgladtoknowyou sort of way.

that make any sense? :)

Date: 2004-09-06 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Plenty of sense. I'mgladtoknowyou, too. *hugs nat*

P.S. milk chocolate buttons are clearly superior!

Date: 2004-09-06 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] despotliz.livejournal.com
Niall in being rightheaded shocker!

Date: 2004-09-06 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattia.livejournal.com
Milk chocolate, by definition, cannot be superior.

Date: 2004-09-06 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] despotliz.livejournal.com
White chocolate's not even chocolate! It's just vanilla flavoured icky stuff.

Date: 2004-09-06 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Vanilla

Oh, is that what it's meant to taste like?

Date: 2004-09-06 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattia.livejournal.com
OK. I stand corrected. Compared to white chocolate, milk chocolate is indeed superior.

Date: 2004-09-06 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Well, that's a little disappointing. I was hoping for a chocolate holy war.

Date: 2004-09-06 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattia.livejournal.com
Am not girly enough for that, I fear.

Date: 2004-09-06 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
I am eating milk chocolate buttons. I am eating them RIGHT NOW. I am not eating white chocolate buttons. That should tell you something. :-p

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